Michael Palin: *bursts in the door* … “NO ONE EXPECTS ….. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT!”
John Cleese: *stops reading newspaper* … “Mm, no. No. People do expect the fire department.”
Michael Palin: “Not on that planet they don’t.”
John Cleese: *Looks around.* …. “Yes, well. Point taken.”
The burning of the city in Durnheim would not have been due to the factory (different planet) but because of the Durns shooting at Emily and tossing bombs.
0z79
Right here, this guy’s been paying attention.
russell styles
Yep. Not sorry for that planet either though. Someone needs to clip the … Durns? wings. Figuratively I suppose. Regretfully.
Radar
This makes me insanely happy. Keep working at it you two. Love is worth it!
Pete Rogan
Well, it’s a move. Emily made it, and Pierrot is willing to accept it.
But they both still know the thing that makes Emily a brute is still there, and that to get over it, she’s going to have to learn intimacy. Which she really has never experienced in her tough, hardscrabble life. Save with Pierrot, as far as that went.
I would wish them well, but Emily must still do all the lifting here, not just the heavy part. I’m too aware that this offer of community comes just before she’s to return Tesfay, Aitana and Chiphu to Earth. And even before she sets GOB Security to work on the Puppy-people. There are too many… let’s call them opportunities for complication and entanglement. I’m on the verge of feeling sorry for what Emily must put herself through before she can have the opportunity to realize just why she’s doing it.
And now where comes this sensation of dread? This apprehension that something unexpected is going to demolish the foundations of certainty and tumble worlds into confusion, doubt, and horror?
Gotta cut back on Sugar Babies popcorn, I guess. Time to shift to bêtises de Cambrai for a time. Yeah.
M.A.
If Emily’s learning to be more intimate and Pierre is learning to set boundaries, they’d better get good couples’ counseling before they pass, going in opposite directions.
Lurker
Oh, I presumed you WERE heading towards a resolution in which either one or both of them finally acknowledged that she wasn’t the only one who was at fault here, as they’ve presented it thus far. Was it actually unintended that Emily calling herself a “brute” to Pierrot here was dripping with irony? Of the first 20 pages after he was introduced to the comic, fully a fifth involve him flipping out and attacking or trying to attack people with no foreseeable benefit to anyone, one of those incidents being in his very first page (the driver of his car no less) and another targeting Emily herself. And he hasn’t slowed down all that much since then.
I wasn’t calling him a terrible person just for being extremely violence-prone, but his anger at Emily’s default solution to problems (decisive results-oriented action with an unfortunate tendency not to notify others) seems to come from his subconscious recognition that he tends towards the same, only with generally less effectiveness and no thought for the consequences. Such insecurities aren’t uncommon for males in a relationship wherein they’re not “wearing the pants” so to speak, which was the case here until recent events (Emily giving up both her job and her child, and being basically bullied into doing both by him in the first place).
If all or most of that wasn’t your intent, well, congrats on writing characters who are complex enough that we can each read into their interactions in different ways. 😛 My statements weren’t intended to insult the character but to show appreciation for the dark undertones of emotional abuse in what might, out of context, otherwise seem like just a genuine mutual attempt at healing, and that still holds true even if you weren’t specifically going for that, cuz it shows depth in the characters and relationships you’ve created.
But I have to admit that it’d be a little disconcerting if you actually want Pierrot to come across as the morally spotless good-guy in this situation. At bare minimum it has to be acknowledged that he took their child from her with essentially no discussion, as a response to actions she took to protect said child — actions which, objectively, worked perfectly well. That whole sequence read strongly to me as Pierrot’s growing inferiority complex towards Emily finally boiling over until he tried to prove that he could at least take care of Em-J on his own even if he couldn’t measure up to her in other ways, but even if that wasn’t his reasoning for his actions, it was still a pretty horrific thing for him to do to Emily no matter why he did so. That was exactly the sort of impulsive and violent “solution” to a situation that he naturally prefers, but with which he only finds fault when Emily does the same.
“Hey, Nogg.”
“Hi, Emily. How’s– I’m not responsible for those Earthers being here!!!”
“Don’t worry, they’re– Hey, Pierrot!”
“Emily… Nogg, what did you do this time?!”
“They’re not mine!!!”
Dollars to doughnuts that Aitana will/would adopt Nogg as a loveable, slightly bumbling absentminded uncle.
“Awww, uncle Nogg, what have you stepped in this time?”
“Krepp left it on my floor. I don’t want to talk about it.”
This is why my cats aren’t well behaved.
Well we can’t say they don’t do fan service once in a while.
I for one am glad that the city burned. Not sure how one factory caused a city to burn though.
I suppose that depends on what was in the factory.
A chemical factory. Still, a city is a big place.
Ignore previous comment. Wrong planet. Although I do expect that planet to make the news as well.
Michael Palin: *bursts in the door* … “NO ONE EXPECTS ….. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT!”
John Cleese: *stops reading newspaper* … “Mm, no. No. People do expect the fire department.”
Michael Palin: “Not on that planet they don’t.”
John Cleese: *Looks around.* …. “Yes, well. Point taken.”
The burning of the city in Durnheim would not have been due to the factory (different planet) but because of the Durns shooting at Emily and tossing bombs.
Right here, this guy’s been paying attention.
Yep. Not sorry for that planet either though. Someone needs to clip the … Durns? wings. Figuratively I suppose. Regretfully.
This makes me insanely happy. Keep working at it you two. Love is worth it!
Well, it’s a move. Emily made it, and Pierrot is willing to accept it.
But they both still know the thing that makes Emily a brute is still there, and that to get over it, she’s going to have to learn intimacy. Which she really has never experienced in her tough, hardscrabble life. Save with Pierrot, as far as that went.
I would wish them well, but Emily must still do all the lifting here, not just the heavy part. I’m too aware that this offer of community comes just before she’s to return Tesfay, Aitana and Chiphu to Earth. And even before she sets GOB Security to work on the Puppy-people. There are too many… let’s call them opportunities for complication and entanglement. I’m on the verge of feeling sorry for what Emily must put herself through before she can have the opportunity to realize just why she’s doing it.
And now where comes this sensation of dread? This apprehension that something unexpected is going to demolish the foundations of certainty and tumble worlds into confusion, doubt, and horror?
Gotta cut back on Sugar Babies popcorn, I guess. Time to shift to bêtises de Cambrai for a time. Yeah.
If Emily’s learning to be more intimate and Pierre is learning to set boundaries, they’d better get good couples’ counseling before they pass, going in opposite directions.
Oh, I presumed you WERE heading towards a resolution in which either one or both of them finally acknowledged that she wasn’t the only one who was at fault here, as they’ve presented it thus far. Was it actually unintended that Emily calling herself a “brute” to Pierrot here was dripping with irony? Of the first 20 pages after he was introduced to the comic, fully a fifth involve him flipping out and attacking or trying to attack people with no foreseeable benefit to anyone, one of those incidents being in his very first page (the driver of his car no less) and another targeting Emily herself. And he hasn’t slowed down all that much since then.
I wasn’t calling him a terrible person just for being extremely violence-prone, but his anger at Emily’s default solution to problems (decisive results-oriented action with an unfortunate tendency not to notify others) seems to come from his subconscious recognition that he tends towards the same, only with generally less effectiveness and no thought for the consequences. Such insecurities aren’t uncommon for males in a relationship wherein they’re not “wearing the pants” so to speak, which was the case here until recent events (Emily giving up both her job and her child, and being basically bullied into doing both by him in the first place).
If all or most of that wasn’t your intent, well, congrats on writing characters who are complex enough that we can each read into their interactions in different ways. 😛 My statements weren’t intended to insult the character but to show appreciation for the dark undertones of emotional abuse in what might, out of context, otherwise seem like just a genuine mutual attempt at healing, and that still holds true even if you weren’t specifically going for that, cuz it shows depth in the characters and relationships you’ve created.
But I have to admit that it’d be a little disconcerting if you actually want Pierrot to come across as the morally spotless good-guy in this situation. At bare minimum it has to be acknowledged that he took their child from her with essentially no discussion, as a response to actions she took to protect said child — actions which, objectively, worked perfectly well. That whole sequence read strongly to me as Pierrot’s growing inferiority complex towards Emily finally boiling over until he tried to prove that he could at least take care of Em-J on his own even if he couldn’t measure up to her in other ways, but even if that wasn’t his reasoning for his actions, it was still a pretty horrific thing for him to do to Emily no matter why he did so. That was exactly the sort of impulsive and violent “solution” to a situation that he naturally prefers, but with which he only finds fault when Emily does the same.